When transit Uranus is in the composite 12th house, you may make changes together but quietly behind the scenes, with no one watching. As a 12th house person, I finally realized I enjoy the confusion. Saturn is the heaviest aspected planet in this composite, which actually reinforces the intensity of the Moon/Saturn-opposite theme from synastry. The sixth and the eighth house are also karmic houses. 08.05.20. thundered Regine. We both feel we have been together over many lifetimes. More appreciative of that special melding? Transit Saturn in the Composite 12th House. I am a strong 12th house person- the sun in Libra conjunct Pluto/Mercury in Scorpio, with Saturn in Scorpio widely conjunct my Scorpio ascendent (I told you I was intense) and he has no planets in the 12th. clearly the 1st has the most planets, but you said the sun was the essence of the chart,its in scorpio in the 12 house. The 12th House is also known as the House of mystery while Venus symbolizes intuition and artful . This person and I believe were soulmates, and I would go further to say were twin flames as we share some many parallels in our lives, similarities, and all the other strange features of a twin flame relationship as describe by many. Mars is involved too, which would indicate that passion, anger and aggression can be triggered by the darker, more unconscious feelings that emerged when the . I also have two stelliums in the 11th and 12th of my natal chart.a total of 8 planets (6 in Leo). We need strong, healthy egos to accomplish what weve come to do in this life, but we need to act according to what is wanted of us, not against it. Our synastry with my beloved couple is very strong with good connections between both 1th and 7th house rulers and many positive aspects like double whammy saturn-moon, and positive ascendant-moon, ascendant-venus, venus-moon, and so warm and intense pluto conj. (Not at all helped by the fact that his Venus is square to my Sun at exact degrees.) Saturn, NN, and Sun exact at 28 degrees, opposite Chiron Rx in Cancer. Also, if the relationship is not a good one, Sun conjunct Neptune is prone to self-deception and confusion at best and outright deception and betrayal at its worst. I need all the help to understand I can get. The south node lies there on the natal composite. When composite Lilith is placed in the eighth house of the composite chart, this makes the relationship between the two people very intense. Trust me when I say that I will happily take a man i am less connected to, to allow myself the support I need to thrive in this life. cheers:). "Composite Chart, Midpoint- method (2)". In my natal I have mars and mercury in 12th house Gemini. It has been a very long journey! Hi WhitelotusI use both the Midpoint and the Davison charts in synastry. With 4, 8 and 12 emphasized, youll have to deal with one another in an emotionally honest way, no matter what karma you have to work out together. The 12th house has to do with summarizing and accepting all that has come before it, whereas first house planets are very pure, almost innocent, in their expression. In our synastry my North Node/South Node axis is conjunct his MC/IC axis and his Moon conjuncts my IC. We still keep in touch as just friends occasionally, and sometimes I feel like I am having conversations with him in my head. The same person I've had mutual 12th house synastry with has sun in 12th house composite with me. What gives a better idea of the relationship potential, synastry or composite? the davison chart also has our moon, venus, saturn and uranus in the 1st. And what does it mean our 12th. This secrecy he is practising probably points to the venus-mars in composite twelfth ? Juno is not only about romantic partnerships, but has to do with equality in general. Instant connection, followed by a break up 5 days after, followed by getting back together 1 week later, on and off, on and off formally breaking up in 9 months, and yet professing how we never stopped loving each other two years after that (If you want to find someone else, if you want to marry someone else, I will not stop you, but know this. The twelfth house is associated with hidden emotions, and Lilith's influence adds an extra layer of complexity to this placement. They have an inner urge to help others but don't know how to help themselves or ask for support. I felt (sorry to say) that he is the big love of my life! Forget about where his planets fall in your houses and instead, put your natal chart around the chart of the composite, then do the same with his. Thats for start. I like to think of Pluto more in terms of the battle between the ego and the soul. Thanks Dawn! Thank you. You're hypersensitive to energy and emotions in your environment, including the collective, if Chiron is in the 12th House. A recent class in assassins revealed that the victims often had many planets in the shooters 12th house. How does a Composite Sun or Ruler of the chart operate when their planets are in the 12th house but also also conjunct the Ascendant? The lesson they teach is that we do not have to possess love in order to experience it. me and this guy who dont know each other properly have same ascendants and house cusps natally. Please your opinion. I thought that because of the 8th house or vertex, I forced him to confront his own dark side. With composite Pluto in their 9th house, danger lies in dogmatism. This position can show one person makes all of the sacrifices and the other person takes everything . Im not exactly sure what our future holds, but I do know we are exactly where we are supposed to be XOXO ~ Thank you for the lovely insights!!! or is it irrelevant ? Dawn, thank you for writing this article. Weve known each other for a decade??? 13 . Watch out for substance abuse and addictions. What do you think? He seems very able to detach himself and move to the future. let go or fight for it? Its hard for me to stop dreaming about this person. Overall, this is considered a favorable Lilith placement, as it is . Both of us are on a spiritual path, which is very important to each of us. Since Lilith is being hidden in the 12th . Do you think that is true? In Our composite chart Sun, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter and Chiron in the 12 house. In Astrology, the planet Venus represents compassion, cooperation, beauty, and the Arts. Just endings in general. In reality, 12th house people tend to believe it doesn't matter what they do. Composite Houses, I'll begin, of course, with the Ascendant and the first quadrant of the chart. To use Jeff Greens analogy, the ego believes it is an independent entity, but a developed ego is like a wave; it knows it is moving towards the shore, but it also knows that it will return to the ocean to which it belongs, the place of the Source or universal spirit. A trauma might have triggered you before, making you a reserved person now. Im so confused by this mix! This places can even indicate psychic ability. Greetings. what kind of compassion do you think can be generated from a composite mars in 12th house? Moon and Mars both Trine Uranus. this is honestly so beautiful to read. we have stellium-sun, venus, mercury in 12th house-composit chart(aries), mars in 11th house, moon in 6th, uran retrograde and pluto retrograte in 5th, jupiter retrograde and neptun retrograde in 7th house, south node conjuct regulus in 4th hause, vertex conjuct DC, saturn in 1th house. What is your thought on this. any input would be greatly appreciated!!! . People born with Chiron in the 12th house struggle with their psyche, spirituality, and vulnerability. Hi annaMy feeling is that the word god is loaded, psychologically speaking. Here we are, older, everything so different now, lessons learned, and I am seeing that I cant undo the past. Im blessed to remember some past lives weve had and we have definitely come together to mend some old wounds and learn to forgive and love one another. While separated from his girlfriend and in the final stages of breaking it off with her, we had several secret liaisons- more 12th house. We feel that very beautiful in our life! The examination of two natal charts shows how people interact with one another==how I affect you, and vice versa. Definitely karmic and unbreakable. 4) Conjunctions to the Axis/Angles = very strong bond. The fourth house is . Wow very insightful thank you so much, I love your writing!! thanks Dawn! Venus/Uranus is difficult in the composite, but it doesnt explain your obsession. Sometimes we will be asked to make leaps of faith. Concentrate on intimacy and you should be all right. There are 12 houses of Nessus divided according to the sun signs, such as the rst house belongs to Aries, the second house to Taurus, and so on. It is commonly thought that the Moon governs emotions and intuition, and it does. Hi Dawn. At all. Curious about the sexual response (if there will be anything), its friendly. The weirdness of the 12th usually happens when one or both of the other parties has a heavy 12th influence in the natal. Sure someone up there wants to teach me a lesson (again!). We were happy plutonicay together. This can happen in composites of unrequited love, where one person loves another who doesnt know he or she exists. There is also a Mars in the 12th that doesnt get really any support from anything. Lilith square . Transit Jupiter in the Composite 12th House. Our Composite Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars and Jupiter are in the 12th, Gemini. Our situation was kind of complicated. As Jeff Buckley puts it, hes a tear that hangs inside my soul forever. We tried to stop but we couldnt be in the same room aloneI know it sounds nothing more than two horny people getting together but it really wasnt the same..or was it? Most of it is illusions I know.. This man can be my everything and this feeling will not change. We had an instant connection, and I ended up in his apartment the first night we met. Looking at the chart, it seems to be propelling us into Aquarius, and Aquarian age type of love. Its part of me. I am surprised I did not find it and comment earlier, as I am still haunted by the same relationship 2 years after it ended. I was wondering about my composite contacts with some I know who we share 12th house themes with. Just a knowing if you will. Either the energy of the planet is lost, confused, diffused and (at least in our early years) ineffective, or the planet can completely embody its archetype for all to see, often after overcoming great difficulties and reversals, sometimes in extreme circumstances. what do you think it means to have such much weight in the 1st and 12th houses? 00 Angel Number, 00 Angel Number Twin Flame. taurus venus-mars conjunction in Your opinion? The Sun and Moon in the 7th house are especially encouraging for a new relationship (if you're single) because your main focus for the year (the Sun) plus your emotional concerns will be united in that area. Your article is amazing! Thank You very much for Your answer and very best regards from Hungary again! They seem bonded before a word is spoken. Lilith in the 12th house are really good at hiding their "lilith" nature and because of this they are usually popular. I think the fact that were both artists gave this aspect an outlet. hi dawn We move from the personal world, giving up our individuality along the way, to become a plaything of the collective unconscious. And we both natally have same aspects, my mars is in my 12th and his moon is in his 12th also. My english is not very good. We are both married similar age kids. Whatever the motive, we know we are facing some sort of extremeand a choice. Sorry Shannon, Dawn passed away a couple of years ago. Jupiter in 1st house, Uranus in the 11th to bracket the party. We challenge each other to be the best versions of ourselves. That I could be around someone and not feel uncomfortable. Is there nothing better to hope for? The What would you say about a composite Scorpio Juno in the 12th house, conjunct to the asteroid Valentine and squaring the north and south node? Thank you. The Uranus/Mercury conjunction in the composite can make the relationship more mental than physical. How ironic! All this seems to confirm your analyses of the other composite houses, as well. Mysterious things attract you. His natal Venus in cancer is in my 12house. Then we hurt each other. Yes There is a higher purpose to these relationships. What the twelfth house demands of us always is that we give the ego a rest, but often challenges regarding the ego are exactly what we have to face with twelfth house planets. The composite chart with the man Im involved with has an extremely tight Moon/Mars conjunction in the 12th, along with the North Node. Black Moon Lilith is the geometric point in the sky that marks the furthest point of the moon's orbit around the earth. Transit Venus in the Composite 12th House. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. This year in April we were introduced to each other by our mates. Sun conjunct Neptune is a very difficult thing to live with in a composite chart. We are ignoring what the Source is asking us to do. Lilith in the 12th House. where is very intense connection and I can feel things youve described but also I can see it as long term.. thanks you very much Dawn to shed some lights on this! The empty space in Aries, would that be the outlet or where to focus all that energy? Mercury in the first is a good aspect to have because of the communication involved and the ability to think clearly regarding the relationship. I loved you from the first moment and that has never changed.) In the 10 years, he (who had been separated from his wife when we first met) went back to his wife, I got engaged to someone else but broke it off realizing I do not love my fiance, reconnected as just friends, and I eventually married someone else, with his blessings. You are interested in psychology, religion, spirituality too. What you said about compo Sun/Neptune is very interesting Please I would like to know Dawn,according to you it is important to notice what this compo Sun/Neptune conjuncts in each individual charts, to determine more precisely how each person is going to feed this confusing Sun /Neptune by his/her personal points .? Thanks for the kind and helpful words, Dawn. The 12th house is the culmination of all that has come before itits our last chance, our last ride, and planets there can often go to extremes without knowing why (they can blame it on the limitless nature of Pisces, which respects no boundaries). Thanks a lot Dawn, now I understand it. We went through hell together, we loved each other, we saved each other, we saved others together, we could practically feel and read one another. My concern is a grand trine in the composite chart, Mercury/Jupiter/Venus all conjunct in the 1st (pisces) trine Moon/North node conjunct in the 5th (cancer) and Neptune the chart ruler in the 9th (Scopio). The part about unrequited love was particularly interesting and that other part might not know what we exist. Saturn and Uranus both have a lot to say about Aquarius. thanks Dawn for your reply. Thank You so much for Your answer! I was the Sun/Ascendant person, while he was the Lilith person. The higher powers are always tapping at the door, insisting on change, cleansing, and renewal from within (Pluto/Uranus in Virgo), but how do you do that if your connection to the other world and the higher powers are full of fear and resistant to the necessary dissolving that must occur (Saturn in Pisces). Oh, and we have a 7 year old son. I say empty.. no planet but Asteroid Osiris is 26 Aries. Since your Part of Fortune is in the 12th house of your birth chart, the sixth house is the opposite house. I have read at least books regarding the 12th house, and its not easy to comprehend the needs of the 12th. But it was very devastating experience getting physical, it really failed the first time and we didnt try it again. I think this is SO true . We are very romantic together and trust each other. Love for loves sake wont fly with the 12th house. My sun in the 3rd is squeezed in a T-square between Saturn in Pisces, in the 6th and Pluto/Uranus in Virgo, in the 12th. i give it much meaning because i really feel a psychic connection and a karmic fate, but again that could be just me since i have a heavy neptune but nothing in my natal 12th. Thanks for taking the time to respond. I have gone through a long, long cycle of heartaches and have been able to slowly, heart-wrenchingly get over each and every one, except this guy. Mercury in 12th House. The fatedness of it all doesnt make sense at times, like union of the subconscious.